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Post by Little K-B on Mar 23, 2013 23:58:50 GMT -5
Will I get shot for my thoughts? Welp. Call me crazy. (If this degrades in formality it's because I'm tired) What I believe is there is a God, and I do believe that He's good. I believe that there's sin, that is, actions against God's will, and that creates a division between God and man. I also believe in the price for sin is death, and that nothing a sinner (everyone, you, me, that homeless dude on the street, the pastor in the church, the richest man on the planet, etc.) does is going to get him/her any closer to getting to heaven because we're all already stained with sin (did that get confusing? sorry). So God sends Jesus, right? Now Jesus is like 100% spotless A++ clean, sinless, etc. which makes his sacrifice on the cross basically cover the people he chooses to save. Why does he get to choose? Because Adam and Eve done goofed and got kicked out waaaaay back in Genesis, which is where the whole sin thing started. So God doesn't owe us. I believe in God because, frankly, I can't believe otherwise. It sounds weird, I know. But what I know is He calls you, and that kind of call can't really be ignored. You can try and put it off, sure, but you're gonna end up believing anyway. Also the Old Testament is God basically saying,"YOU HAD ONE JOB. ONE. JOB." and then everyone messing up and TA-DA *wipes out sinners* *calamity* *stuck in desert* *taken over* This has been a long post and I apologize for the length ._. Although there are a few lapses according to the Bible, it was an apt rendition haha  |
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Post by Kam ar taj on Mar 24, 2013 9:24:19 GMT -5
all i have to say is i pretty much have a belief that deep down all religions are similar and that they focus on trying to make you a better person in some aspects. Personally i dislike Christianity because of the bloody history that is infact very unkind and focused on trying to force others into it and because i have met quite a few stuck up southern people who claim all other religions are stupid. (Anyone who tries to argue with the christianity part i didnt say all are bad or they all still force you im just giving you my reason for liking it please dont try to argue with me.)
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Post by Little K-B on Mar 24, 2013 10:13:27 GMT -5
all i have to say is i pretty much have a belief that deep down all religions are similar and that they focus on trying to make you a better person in some aspects. Personally i dislike Christianity because of the bloody history that is infact very unkind and focused on trying to force others into it and because i have met quite a few stuck up southern people who claim all other religions are stupid. (Anyone who tries to argue with the christianity part i didnt say all are bad or they all still force you im just giving you my reason for liking it please dont try to argue with me.) Well all religions try to accomplish the same thing, which (imo) is to try and help explain some of the things we can't explain at the current time and to help many people feel safe about life and what's beyond death. The bloodiness of Christianity (Can't tell if you mean during the biblical period or afterwards) is always based on people with their own religion coming into contact with those of another religion, disagreeing with them, and then reaching a conflict with them. Same could be said for the majority of religious conflicts, like the Crusades and whatnot. Christianity is is one of the religions that try and get people to convert to Christianity because that's what they believe. They want everyone to hear God's word and to go to heaven, so they try and convert people with mission trips, helping the poor, and things like that. That doesn't mean that they're right or wrong, it's just how they do things I guess... |
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Post by Kam ar taj on Mar 24, 2013 10:48:38 GMT -5
well l: technically you didnt argue you just put up your view and point
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Post by omgitsgunz on Mar 26, 2013 19:14:43 GMT -5
Don't know what helping the poor you're talking about. I don't see any of it. Hell, Bill Gates and others are Atheists and give 50% of their net value to charity. Can't say that for anyone else.. meh. Things like that. This sums up my stance on one of christianity's biggest hypocrisies  Edit: This too. Separation of church and state? Nope.  |
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Post by Kam ar taj on Mar 26, 2013 19:25:56 GMT -5
is that chart on the right true about atheists not being able to hold office? because if it is thats bullcrap cause thats against the constitution
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Post by Nytherinz on Mar 26, 2013 20:07:37 GMT -5
I agree with you Kam.
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Post by Little K-B on Mar 26, 2013 21:09:06 GMT -5
Well gunz a lot of the convents help poor people with soup kitchens and clothing, so that's where I was going with it. Also, I was talking more about 'traditional' catholic ideas. Now the church had become a much more politically important (without saying it's politically involved). This is because many of the ideals this country was founded upon were the same the church had. Now the traditionalists still cling to these and fight for protecting the sanctity of their government against those who oppose the views they have. In essence, they can't take freaking change
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Post by omgitsgunz on Mar 26, 2013 23:07:48 GMT -5
It is true. Dude, we have "in god we trust" on ALL our money. THAT'S against the Constitution too.
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Post by Little K-B on Mar 26, 2013 23:48:44 GMT -5
It is true. Dude, we have "in god we trust" on ALL our money. THAT'S against the Constitution too. Well no; If it said 'In Jesus Christ we trust', it'd be unconstitutional. All religions have a god, just by their own names. It's still a tender subject lol |
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Post by EffinSkitty on Mar 27, 2013 0:21:51 GMT -5
Even though some might think that i am to immature or young to understand religion. I beg to differ.
I have fully read two bibles in my lifetime. The Christian side and the Hebrew side. I have grown up in a Methodist church, and refuse to read anything for it. I do not like there ways of teaching and the ways they think about things in life. My parents have forced me to go to this 'church' and i have been in denial for 10 years. I have been converting myself to Judaism due to the lack of believing in all of the main factors of other religions (catholic, Christianity, Methodist, etc...). The main factor that has may me believe in Judaism more than any other religion is that there really want't a holy son. don't get me wrong, i don't want to start a argument, but there just wasn't to me. all of the things that Jesus did were physically impossible, and there are no proven non-fictional records of his existence here today. Sure, some of you might say that the bible states that he is in existence, but how do you know that the bible is telling you the truth? Just ask yourself this simple question, are you correct in your religion?
No arguments*
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Post by Little K-B on Mar 27, 2013 0:33:05 GMT -5
See, this is the fundamental question regarding every religious debate. I mean sure, there are those few religions based off of non-distinct, natural forces like Daoism or your actions in life such as Confucianism, but the majority of religions are monotheistic, and have a strong, devout following. Everyone wants to always be right, all the time; no matter what anyone else has to say. That's why when you even ask that question you're begging for an argument. In my mind, every religion is a different side the the tetrahedron of belief. The only ones who aren't in it are the atheists. Everyone else is just arguing about who's belief system is better, when in fact, none of them are any better than the rest. They're just different. You don't like kneeling? Don't be Catholic. You don't like praying 5 times a day? Don't be Muslim. You don't like not playing Runescape on saturdays? Don't be whatever denomination of Judaism Gold is |
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Post by Kam ar taj on Mar 27, 2013 8:26:20 GMT -5
mitch it says God captital g I'm pretty sure we all know which god it stands for to think otherwise is ignorant in my opinion
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Post by Little K-B on Mar 27, 2013 9:54:04 GMT -5
Actually, all of the letters are capitalized on the money, so you can't necessarily assume that it's reference God in Christianity
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Post by Revan on Mar 27, 2013 11:25:18 GMT -5
Mitch, to correct you here, Monotheistic religions are a minority among the religions of the world. They are primarily an invention of the last few thousand years, 2 thousand in the case of Christianity and about 1500 years in the case of islam and only Judaism is older than that.
However you are correct that monotheistic religions are a majority in the world, but not by that much, and the third biggest religion is a polytheistic religion, Hinduism.
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