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Post by retsmah on Dec 9, 2010 20:53:01 GMT -5
Is what he did wrong?
Is the US Government taking his prosecution too far?
Are his 'followers' taking hits prosecution too far?
1-2-GO!
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Aslow
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I'm weird. Get over it.
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Post by Aslow on Dec 9, 2010 21:30:10 GMT -5
He is just a whistleblower its pointless we stress freedom of speech and its being blown completely out of proportion he was doing the same thing we Americans do when we choose to speak out against something.
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Post by retsmah on Dec 9, 2010 22:00:33 GMT -5
Personally, I can understand why US is so upset solely based on WHAT he released, since there was so much vital info about troops and military plans. However, US trying to get him for treason is absurd as Assange is Australian.
All the hackers going after credit cards in his 'defense' is just kinda funny though imo. It doesnt help Assange much I think
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Post by Revan on Dec 9, 2010 22:27:13 GMT -5
aslow the problem with his whistleblowing is that it is putting us troops at danger, as well as screwing up international relations. hes not exposing things that were done wrong, hes exposing everything and its really messing things up.
on the treason charge, he can be charged with it because it is an act of espionage. in essence he is a spy stealing classified documents and releasing them as stolen property of the us government. however, i do not think the charge will stick and will probably be reduced quite a bit ;p
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Post by retsmah on Dec 9, 2010 23:11:55 GMT -5
That it though...by definition treason is betrayal of ones country. He can be charged with espionage in multiple countries. Along with hacking (I'm sure) receiving stolen property (info he received from other hackers) and of course his Swedish rape charge lol. but the only country that can prosecute for treason is Australia
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Post by Zigorkhan on Dec 13, 2010 16:36:15 GMT -5
I look at this from a few different standpoints... 1) Treason is out, as a citizen of a Commonwealth nation like myself. We may live in countries that are in alliances with the United States of America, but never once did we take the "Pledge of Allegiance." We don't owe the United States anything. If anyone should be charged with Treason in the United states, it should be Janet Napolitano for destroying your own Constitution and undermining your democracy, but thats another topic  2) Whether or not he could be charged with Espionage is also highly debatable. Did he actually take action to steal the information himself? Or was he the receiving party of an internal whistleblower? Is Wikileaks a legitimate news source? Are they legitimate journalists? If so, does freedom of the press protect them? And in that case, would CNN releasing documents acquired about another nation be subject to the same charge? If it doesn't pass a 180 rule, then its not a legitimate charge... Also I don't buy any of the claims that its endangering Troops in warzones. The only damage was in foreign relations and increasing animosity towards the united states in the Middle East. Lets be honest. I don't think animosity towards the United States, or all NATO nations for that matter... could possibly get any worse in the middle east. That goose has already been cooked. And the Foreign relations damage, is as much the fault of unprofessional diplomatic conduct on the part of the diplomatic staff in putting comments like that down in recorded memo's. They should be sacking more then a few of them as well in all this. |
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Post by Revan on Dec 13, 2010 21:11:54 GMT -5
agreed on napolitano... we had her for governor here wayy too long...
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