Wilderness/free trade vote

[Halestone48]

Well, it looks like the wilderness and free trade may come back yet. And no, its not april fools day, I checked.

There are a few things wrong with the voting, like the fact that you don't need a password, and as such anyone can vote for anyone.

[jevro88]

i dont like that theres just a yes vote. no "no" vote. so they cant compare.

[Halestone48]

Well, its probably rigged for a yes and they already have it ready. Either that or this is one hell of a downright evil joke, or they just plain did not think it through.

[ghostlybuddy]

Let's get something out of the way, THIS IS A BAD freaking IDEA. The return of the old wilderness will bring about the death of many of the wilderness activities that many players depend upon. Abyssal RCing, for one, will go down the crapper, with swarms of pkers waiting for RCers. Green dragons weren't the safest thing to kill for most mid levels, but they were a great source of income. I could go on, but you get the point. I'm definitely boycotting this

[retsmah]

i voted yes just for free trade...this way prices will be what players want them to be...personally im not a fan of jagex having an influence on the 'stock market' that GE is

[Revan]

thing is hale, they had a guiness world records trademark at the bottom of the page for a while
could just be a gimmick to get another world record for jagex

[Sir Ewoksrule91]

I'm not voting because 1. I don't like the forced vote of yes although that is an interesting way of a poll I admit, 2. I never really go into wildy except for rcing and stuff that you can tele too but this would make rcing more interesting also could bring back old crusades although I never liked them and could invite new members to try and get away with pking which will cause us trouble, and 3. Changing it back will just have the stuff that caused them to take it away happen again and extremely mess up the economy possibly. If this became too extreme they may have to take it away again... Either keep it the way it is now or admit taking it away in the first place was extremely stupid, it couldn't have been a good idea if they are going to give it back.

Also the voting site says this,

Please register your vote if you want to see the return of free trade and the danger of the original wildy. 100,000 votes certainly won't be enough. Perhaps not even 1,000,000. It will take you and every one of your friends, ex-friends and probably even enemies to register sufficient votes to bring it back.

If there isn't enough that satisfies this pkers are going to cry more than they did when they took it away in the first place which will cause tons of trouble as will if it does pass... Either way this is probably a horrible idea for jagex and seriously doubt they will be able to pull this off without tons of really pissed off people...

[Halestone48]

Dec 22, 2010 14:54:53 GMT -5 Revan said:

thing is hale, they had a guiness world records trademark at the bottom of the page for a while
could just be a gimmick to get another world record for jagex

Eh, thats probably just a bad template though.


@ewoks Thing is, I can almost guarantee someone else will vote with your username after going to the highescores. And its possible to vote with no name at all. There WILL be enough votes if it even matters.

[Concept Black]

Well the good news (if any) is that must activities inside the wilderness that are widely used such as Clan Wars, FOG etc. will be relocated and others will be reviewed on a possible relocation.

Bounty and PVP worlds will go away (bad thing is this will make it hard for us to see who might be pking)

I don't like the trade limit though, some people say prises will raise a lot, and it may for a while but they will ultimately drop. Remember before? Prises used to be way less than now. Also a good thing is there will be no merching clans that alter the market to their own benefit, the bad side is who will tell us what the current price for an item is? I remember it was a pain in the ass before, you saw someone selling something for 300k and 10 mins later it was actually being sold for 200k...

Ohh another bad thing... Scamming will come back... BIG TIME... the same goes for RWT

[Sikita]

If this gets through, will there still be clan wars?

[Mr Horse72]

Yes there will still be clan wars, they will just relocate it most of the mini games in the wildy to a different area.

[Aslow]

@ Concept RWT and scamming never went away.

[Concept Black]

I know but they became a harder thing to achieve, scammers had no chance against ge and trade limit, and the only way for RWT'ers to make time effective sells was by bounty hunter which later became ineffective so they actually had to money farm from the buyer's account... so yeah they never left but they werent as strong as before and they werent as strong as they will be...

I do, in my personal opinion, would like for the old runescape to come back... wildy added a certain touch of "danger" or "evilness" that somehow made the game even more fun, and the no trade limit allowed us to have more interaction with other players (ie; gifts, normal trading searchieng etc...) I remember the good old days when I used to have survivor events with my friends, we used to bank everything and only take 28 lobsters in to the wild in world 1, a person would watch us in friend chat and stay in lumbridge to write down the people who died. The point was to survive the longest by hiding or just running around in circles or w/e winner always got 100k... that kind of stuff made the game fun, and im sure that it is in a certain point bad that it is now easier for people to pk and stuff if they bring back the wilderness but after all, the same people that pked in pvp worlds will be the one that will pk in the wilderness...

The thing is, we need to kind of like accept this and the fact that is going to happen, I do not know why is Jagex doing this... personally its all non sense to me but maybe they are trying to bring back the good ol' runescape. And the thing is, at this time the voting is like this:

Yes - 90%
No - 7%
I don't mind - 3%

Number of votes - 826992

So it is basically a done thing, we will need to accept it in case it happens and get used to it. Warn new players or people who don't seem to know about the dangers of wilderness and try to make the best that we can to literally educate people to help them avoid scams and lures.

I don't know we could even take advantage of this and get more recognized as a whole, probably make some images (posters) that had phrases like:

"If they make you jump the ditch, its probably going to itch!"

"Armour can't be trimmed, but let me LAUGH OUT LAUD."

"You shouldn't trust the trust game."

Things like that and make topics and posts all over different forums so that they spread like an actual campeign to avoid victims of the change.

We of course should put something like:

We wish you a happy and save gaming!

From all the members of the Runescape Order of Jedi Knights

and probably add the website or something...

that would be a NICE way of advertising and helping people at the same time.

[Zigorkhan]

Well I'll basically say again what I said earlier into another discussion.

None of the information in the poll does anything to address the issues that jagex removed the wilderness and free trade in the first place. Unless jagex is intending to take RWT in-house and start to market items themselves, wouldn't surprise me. Micro-transactions seem to be the new MMO trend these days. Also wouldn't surprise me if they kept the "You need to be friends with so and so for this many days before you can really free-trade" type mechanic like they do with trade limits now.

Plus never doubts Jagex's ability to tell their whole community to piss-off. There are Numerous game breaking scenarios that can be tacked on in edition to free trade that can come into play. The GE is remaining, thus the merch clans would be going nowhere... I imagine they will become even more prolific with caps and timeframes removed.

For the wilderness, if they moved Quests, D&D's, Mini-games, Abysmal RCing, and Treasure Trails out...It really wouldn't matter to me that much. Chances are they won't though, since they want the "predator and prey" situation by creating needs to go into the wilderness aside from just PvP. I do find it interesting thats its "Wilderness & Freetrade" or nothing. I would honesty like to see them do something more progressive and interesting with PvP then the only the old wilderness.

So it is basically a done thing, we will need to accept it in case it happens and get used to it

Why do people keep saying this? Are our heads going to explode and RSJK collapse over night if we don't fully accept the immediate return of the wilderness, repent our sins, and wear wilderness T-shirts and Drink Wilderness Kool-aid.

[Naretorah]

Jan 2, 2011 5:11:27 GMT -5 Zigorkhan said:

Why do people keep saying this? Are our heads going to explode and RSJK collapse over night if we don't fully accept the immediate return of the wilderness, repent our sins, and wear wilderness T-shirts and Drink Wilderness Kool-aid.

Yeah, who says we even need to enter the wilderness at all? It wouldn't do really anything to us since the activities in the wilderness are being moved. The only reason I will be going in there is if the crusades come back. Otherwise nothing is there for me to go there for, just a bloody battlefield that I would rather prefer to stay off of.

Again, even if it comes back Jagex still has major problems to solve from what happened before. If Jagex can't solve them what is the point of bringing them back? Wouldn't people just want them gone, which would be a pointless waste of time?

All I am saying, is that if Jagex wants to bring them back, they should do it right. Don't leave them like they used to be so they can fail again.